The Seattle Times, USA
June 17, 2007
Janet I. Tu, Seattle Times Religion Reporter
ReligionNewsBlog.com • Item 18503 • Posted: Sunday June 17, 2007
“I am both Muslim and Christian”
Shortly after noon on Fridays, the Rev. Ann Holmes Redding ties on a black headscarf, preparing to pray with her Muslim group on First Hill.
On Sunday mornings, Redding puts on the white collar of an Episcopal priest.
She does both, she says, because she’s Christian and Muslim.
Redding, who until recently was director of faith formation
[Keep that in mind: “Director of Faith Formation”…]
at St. Mark’s Episcopal Cathedral, has been a priest for more than 20 years. Now she’s ready to tell people that, for the last 15 months, she’s also been a Muslim
[So, for over a year now, she has been embracing/practicing a different faith than the one she is an Episcopalian Priest of; being dishonest to both her employers and parishioners as well as the God that Episcopalians are supposed to be in worship to.]
— drawn to the faith after an introduction to Islamic prayers left her profoundly moved.
[Being “drawn to” Islam (and Allah) means she has allowed herself to be drawn away from Jesus Christ.
Psalm 62:2 He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my tower; I shall not be greatly moved.
Col 1:21-23 And you, who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled (22) in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish, and without charge in His sight, (23) if indeed you continue in the faith grounded and settled, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which you have heard and which was proclaimed in all the creation under Heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister,
I would agree that she has been “profoundly moved”: in a profoundly wrong direction.]
Her announcement has provoked surprise and bewilderment in many, raising an obvious question: How can someone be both a Christian and a Muslim?
[They quite simply cannot. As much as many today love to point an accusing finger at Christianity for proclaiming that it is THE truth, the fact of the matter is that ALL the major religions teach (and believe) that they are THE truth.
This means they are directly opposed to one another at the core of what they believe; to try and join them together to suit your desires is only to be utterly unfaithful to any of them. Hassidic Confuscianist? Unfaithful! To follow Jesus is to believe in Jesus, not Thor. To believe in Allah is not to follow after Shiva.]
Christianity and Islam are incompatible. Islam rejects the central teachings of the Christian faith. Therefore, anyone who claims to be both a Muslim and a Christian is either ignorant or a liar.
[And in all honestly, they are a non-believer in either.]
A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ as presented in the Bible. Islam specifically rejects Jesus as presented in the Bible.
[Islam says that only Allah is God, that God cannot be man, that Jesus was a great prophet but that He was not crucified to death on a cross, did not rise from the dead, and absolutely was not God. The Bible says Jesus was born into the world as a man who was also God, that he died on a cross to redeem us, that he rose from the dead 3 days later and then ascended into Heaven, and, that Jesus Christ was, is, and always will be, Holy God. There is not an epoxy in the universe that can join those two systems of belief!
Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no other One; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved.]
But it has drawn other reactions too. Friends generally say they support her, while religious scholars are mixed: Some say that, depending on how one interprets the tenets of the two faiths, it is, indeed, possible to be both.
[Any scholar who asserts that it is possible is simply an over-educated idiot, and the world is full of those; religious and secular.]
Others consider the two faiths mutually exclusive.
“There are tenets of the faiths that are very, very different,” said Kurt Fredrickson, director of the doctor of ministry program at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, Calif. “The most basic would be: What do you do with Jesus?”
Christianity has historically regarded Jesus as the son of God and God incarnate, both fully human and fully divine. Muslims, though they regard Jesus as a great prophet, do not see him as divine and do not consider him the son of God.
[Both faiths believe that Jesus was virgin born, both faiths believe that he literally worked miracles, but both do not believe that He was actually God, and that is the deciding factor that everything else hinges on. Accept Christ as God and the Islamic faith crumbles, accept Christ as anything less than God and the Christian faith evaporates.
1Co 15:13-14 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised.(14) And if Christ has not been raised, then our proclamation is worthless, and your faith is also worthless. ]
“I don’t think it’s possible” to be both, Fredrickson said, just like “you can’t be a Republican and a Democrat.”
[Hard to believe that that is the best comparative analogy he could muster]
Redding, who will begin teaching the New Testament as a visiting assistant professor at Seattle University this fall,
[Just what the world (and Seattle!) does not need: another person who does not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, teaching college kids about the Bible!!]
has a different analogy: “I am both Muslim and Christian, just like I’m both an American of African descent and a woman. I’m 100 percent both.”
[Waitasec!! Muslim and Christian are both religious faiths, and so can be compared, weighed alongside one another, etc. But her ethnicity (African) and her gender (woman) are not even close to being comparably similar! That’s 100 % idiotic! She might as well have claimed to be equally a Buick Regal and a box of Captain Crunch!! And I won’t even bother going into how she can’t ever be 200% anything!]
Redding doesn’t feel she has to resolve all the contradictions. People within one religion can’t even agree on all the details, she said. “So why would I spend time to try to reconcile all of Christian belief with all of Islam?
[So, she uses the (false) secular argument that all religious people who claim to be Christians are equally valid as an escape from having to defend this ridiculous stance she is advocating. How commonplace (and weak).]
“At the most basic level, I understand the two religions to be compatible. That’s all I need.”
[Thus showing that at the most basic level, she has no real understanding (or acceptance) of what either believes or teaches.
Deuteronomy 6:4-5 Hear, O, Israel. Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.(5) And you shall love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.]
She says she felt an inexplicable call to become Muslim, and to surrender to God — the meaning of the word “Islam.”
[If she were truly surrendered to Christ (saved), it would have been a “call” she would have ignored.]
“It wasn’t about intellect,” she said. “All I know is the calling of my heart to Islam was very much something about my identity and who I am supposed to be.
[Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?
Matthew 13:19 When anyone hears the Word of the kingdom and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown by the wayside.]
“I could not not be a Muslim.”
[So long as she holds to that, she cannot truly be a Christian.]
Redding’s situation is highly unusual. Officials at the national Episcopal Church headquarters said they are not aware of any other instance in which a priest has also been a believer in another faith. They said it’s up to the local bishop to decide whether such a priest could continue in that role.
[How’s that for passing the buck? In this case, the wolf is already openly INSIDE the door, where is there commitment to protect their flocks?]
Redding’s bishop, the Rt. Rev. Vincent Warner, says he accepts Redding as an Episcopal priest and a Muslim, and that he finds the interfaith possibilities exciting.
[Correction: WOLVES are already inside the doors!]
Her announcement, first made through a story in her diocese’s newspaper, hasn’t caused much controversy yet, he said.
Some local Muslim leaders are perplexed.
Being both Muslim and Christian — “I don’t know how that works,” said Hisham Farajallah, president of the Islamic Center of Washington.
But Redding has been embraced by leaders at the Al-Islam Center of Seattle, the Muslim group she prays with.
[Meaning that (A) They are as false in their faith as she is, or (B) They are using her to try and publicly weaken the Christian faith as it is seen in the world or (C) They are as ignorant of the tenets of Islamic faith as she is.]
“Islam doesn’t say if you’re a Christian, you’re not a Muslim,” said programming director Ayesha Anderson. “Islam doesn’t lay it out like that.”
[Really? Then why is it that when someone converts from Islam to Christianity it is punishable by death. Islamic law calls for them to be beheaded for leaving the Islamic faith.]
Redding believes telling her story can help ease religious tensions, and she hopes it can be a step toward her dream of creating an institute to study Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
“I think this thing that’s happened to me can be a sign of hope,” she said.
[In other words, this is her opportunity to become a hotshot spiritual guru that has others following, praising, and worshiping her as a God. Maybe she’ll get a slot on Oprah, or write a best-selling book telling everyone the secret to her success…
2Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.]
Redding is 55 and single, with deep brown eyes, dreadlocks and a voice that becomes easily impassioned when talking about faith. She’s also a classically trained singer, and has sung at jazz nights at St. Mark’s.
[This sounds like a personals ad; maybe even someone else who is going to try and sue eHarmony for not being…diverse enough.]
The oldest of three girls, Redding grew up in Pennsylvania in a high-achieving, intellectual family. Her father was one of the lawyers who argued the landmark Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court case that desegregated the nation’s public schools. Her mother was in the first class of Fulbright scholars.
Though her parents weren’t particularly religious, they had her baptized and sent her to an Episcopal Sunday school. She has always sensed that God existed and God loved her, even when things got bleak — which they did.
[She sensed He existed, she did not know Him. The difference is a hundred galaxies wide.]
She experienced racism in schools, was sexually abused and, by the time she was a young adult, was struggling with alcohol addiction; she’s been in recovery for 20 years.
Despite those difficulties, she graduated from Brown University, earned master’s degrees from two seminaries and received her Ph.D. in New Testament from Union Theological Seminary in New York City. She felt called to the priesthood and was ordained in 1984.
[“Called” by whom? Is she saying that at that point she had actually met God, found that He was truly knowable – not just “sense-able” – in a real and tangible way that calls us to a changed heart and life?…]
As much as she loves her church, she has always challenged it. She calls Christianity the “world religion of privilege.” She has never believed in original sin. And for years she struggled with the nature of Jesus’ divinity.
[The answer to my last question is a resounding: no. In the worldly secular fashion that she intends it to be taken, I wonder how she could possibly consider it a privilege for people that are imprisoned, tortured and killed for believing that Jesus Christ is God. From a Christian viewpoint, we ourselves are to consider ourselves privileged that we can in some minuscule way share in His sufferings by following Him in this world; but it is so patently obvious that she is not approaching that statement from anything like a Biblical viewpoint. And since she has never (and apparently still does not) believe in original sin…]
She found a good fit at St. Mark’s, coming to the flagship of the Episcopal Church in Western Washington in 2001.
[That is a chilling statement coming immediately after the last paragraph.]
She was in charge of programs to form and deepen people’s faith until March this year when she was one of three employees laid off for budget reasons. The dean of the cathedral said Redding’s exploration of Islam had nothing to do with her layoff.
[The flagship Episcopal church in the state, placed a non-believer in charge of programs to deepen people’s faith!!! ‘Chilling’ was not a strong enough descriptor.]
Ironically, it was at St. Mark’s that she first became drawn to Islam.
In fall 2005, a local Muslim leader gave a talk at the cathedral, then prayed before those attending.
[Why why why why??? Why are churches that are supposed to Christian, bringing in people and leaders of opposing faiths to teach and pray over their congregations? This idiocy is going on all over the place, and it ought not to be! People who go to Christian churches should be being taught about Jesus Christ and His book – the Holy Bible – by Christians and by Christians alone.
An Imam has no business being allowed to speak/teach about Allah or Muhammed in a church that belongs to Jesus. If you want to learn what Jewish people believe about God, go to their temple and listen to what they have to say. But do not have rabbi’s coming into Christian churches and teaching about the Old Testament and God. They do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, and as Christians we believe that the entire Bible is about Jesus Christ.
Should we be friends with Jews, Muslims, Buddists, etc? Absolutely. Should we sit down and talk and discuss matters of faith with them? Certainly. Should we love them, and treat them with compassion, and dignity? YES! Should we be inviting them to stand before our congregations and teach people about faith and God under the open umbrella of our approval? NO!]
Redding was moved. As he dropped to his knees and stretched forward against the floor, it seemed to her that his whole body was involved in surrendering to God.
Then in the spring, at a St. Mark’s interfaith class, another Muslim leader taught a chanted prayer and led a meditation on opening one’s heart.
[They invited someone of another faith, who believes in a different God than the one of the Bible, to teach classes in their church, to teach them how to pray! Pray to who? ALLAH! Not to Jesus!
Matthew 26:53 Do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He shall presently give Me more than twelve legions of angels?
John 16:23-31 And in that day you shall ask Me nothing. Truly, truly, I say to you, Whatever you shall ask the Father in My name, He will give you. (24) Before now you have asked nothing in My name; ask and you shall receive, that your joy may be full. (25) I have spoken these things to you in parables, but the time is coming when I shall no more speak to you in parables, but I will show you plainly of the Father. (26) At that day you will ask in My name; and I do not say to you that I will pray to the Father for you, (27) for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came out from God. (28) I came forth from the Father, and have come into the world. Again I leave the world and go to the Father. (29) The disciples said to Him, Lo, now You speak plainly and speak no parable. (30) Now we know that You know all things and do not need that anyone should ask You. By this we believe that You have come forth from God. (31) Jesus answered them, Do you now believe?
Not one mention of Allah, or Muhammed. Why? Because Christians and Muslims do not believe in the same God. Period!]
The chanting appealed to the singer in Redding; the meditation spoke to her heart. She began saying the prayer daily.
[She began filling herself with things that were not of the God of the Holy Bible.]
Around that time, her mother died, and then “I was in a situation that I could not handle by any other means, other than a total surrender to God,” she said.
She still doesn’t know why that meant she had to become a Muslim. All she knows is “when God gives you an invitation, you don’t turn it down.”
[In fact, people turn down God’s invitations daily, numerous times a day. In fact, people also accept invitations (temptations) from false gods, from satan, from demons, from all sorts of evil sources, numerous times a day.]
In March 2006, she said her shahada — the profession of faith — testifying that there is only one God and that Mohammed is his messenger. She became a Muslim.
[There is indeed only one God, and according to the Bible, He is not Allah.]
Before she took the shahada, she read a lot about Islam. Afterward, she learned from local Muslim leaders, including those in Islam’s largest denomination — Sunni — and those in the Sufi mystical tradition of Islam. She began praying with the Al-Islam Center, a Sunni group that is predominantly African-American.
There were moments when practicing Islam seemed like coming home.
In Seattle’s Episcopal circles, Redding had mixed largely with white people. “To walk into Al-Islam and be reminded that there are more people of color in the world than white people, that in itself is a relief,” she said.
[That says SO much about this woman, about who she is, about what she really thinks and feels about people and the things of God. If I were to wake up tomorrow and find that every other living person on earth (my wife included) were suddenly green, it would not matter a whit to my sense of self or sense of the world itself. It would be jarring to be sure, possibly even soiling initially, but ultimately it would mean nothing because all people on the earth are one and the same in the eyes of God. There is one race – the fallen human race. Melatonin makes no difference to who any of us are.
Mark 12:29-31 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, “Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord; (30) and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.” This is the first commandment. (31) And the second is like this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.
Love our neighbor as ourself. We are all one and the same. None better than another, and we are commanded by our God to love all men, not just those who look like us, dress like us, eat like us, etc.]
She found the discipline of praying five times a day — one of the five pillars of Islam that all Muslims are supposed to follow — gave her the deep sense of connection with God that she yearned for.
It came from “knowing at all times I’m in between prayers.” She likens it to being in love, constantly looking forward to having “all these dates with God. … Living a life where you’re remembering God intentionally, consciously, just changes everything.”
[She spends all her time looking forward to being with God at some later point. A Christian believes that God is with us at all times in all things. We don’t have to yearn for future contact, we can have continual relationship with our God. Each breath, each heartbeat. In fact, the only thing that ever really keeps us from living in total constant connectedness with our Saviour is us, our sin, our choices. We are also called to not merely pray as a daily ritual that we perform in robotic fashion following set criteria like lifeless automatons; but to be always in a state of prayer and supplication to our Lord, to maintain continual union with Him.
1Thessalonians 5:16-19 Rejoice evermore. (17) Pray without ceasing. (18) In everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. (19) Do not quench the Spirit. ]
Friends who didn’t know she was practicing Islam told her she glowed.
Aside from the established sets of prayers she recites in Arabic fives times each day, Redding says her prayers are neither uniquely Islamic nor Christian. They’re simply her private talks with God or Allah — she uses both names interchangeably. “It’s the same person, praying to the same God.”
[Same person – yes. Same God – not even close!]
In many ways, she says, “coming to Islam was like coming into a family with whom I’d been estranged. We have not only the same God, but the same ancestor with Abraham.”
[No matter how often the current Pope says this, and no matter how many other ignorant, foolish, misguided, or in some cases purposefully evil people say it – it is not true. We do not all worship the same God, and will not until the coming return of Jesus Christ.]
A shared beginning
Indeed, Islam, Christianity and Judaism trace their roots to Abraham, the patriarch of Judaism who is also considered the spiritual father of all three faiths. They share a common belief in one God
[But not the SAME God]
, and there are certain similar stories in their holy texts.
But there are many significant differences, too.
Muslims regard the Quran as the unadulterated word of God, delivered through the angel Gabriel to Mohammed. While they believe the Torah and the Gospels include revelations from God, they believe those revelations have been misinterpreted or mishandled by humans.
Most significantly, Muslims and Christians disagree over the divinity of Jesus.
Muslims generally believe in Jesus’ virgin birth, that he was a messenger of God, that he ascended to heaven alive and that he will come back at the end of time to destroy evil. They do not believe in the Trinity, in the divinity of Jesus or in his death and resurrection.
[The fact that they believe Christ to be virgin born, a worker of miracles, a prophet of God, ascended to Heaven, and returning in power and glory gives Christians a starting point for discussion that we do not have anything like when dealing with most other religions. Sadly, that advantage most often goes unused.]
For Christians, belief in Jesus’ divinity, and that he died on the cross and was resurrected, lie at the heart of the faith, as does the belief that there is one God who consists of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Redding’s views, even before she embraced Islam, were more interpretive than literal.
She believes the Trinity is an idea about God and cannot be taken literally.
She does not believe Jesus and God are the same, but rather that God is more than Jesus.
She believes Jesus is the son of God insofar as all humans are the children of God,
[Nope. All humans are the creations of God, but only the saved are His children.
John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His name, (13) who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God.]
and that Jesus is divine, just as all humans are divine — because God dwells in all humans.
[There it is: pantheism. All is God, and God is all. The more I watch
- the influx of Eastern religions and philosophies into Christian churchs,
- the false position that all belief systems and faiths are equally valid,
- the “it’s all about me” narcissism that permeates all of society
- and a bunch of other stuff
What makes Jesus unique, she believes, is that out of all humans, he most embodied being filled with God and identifying completely with God’s will.
[So she says that Jesus was like all humans, like us, only that he was the best one of us. How very similar to what Jehovah’s Witnesses believe about Christ being a second Adam/perfect man,…but not God.]
She does believe that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, and acknowledges those beliefs conflict with the teachings of the Quran. “That’s something I’ll find a challenge the rest of my life,” she said.
She considers Jesus her savior.
[Since (she says) there was no original sin, what does she believe she needs to be saved from? And since she believes that we are all equally divine, why would she need anyone’s help in anything? She can’t sin, and is divine in and of herself, what could she possibly not be able to do or provide for herself?]
At times of despair, because she knows Jesus suffered and overcame suffering, “he has connected me with God,” she said.
That’s not to say she couldn’t develop as deep a relationship with Mohammed. “I’m still getting to know him,” she said.
Matter of interpretation
Some religious scholars understand Redding’s thinking.
[Sure. There’s always that small handful of ridiculously liberalized weak theologians (like the Jesus Seminar folks for instance) who have been attempting to strip Jesus of His divinity for years. At least in this article they did say “some religious scholars” rather than the usual baloney that says “most religious scholars” when they mean “most religious scholars among the handful of people they actually talked to within the philosophy department of a notoriously liberal university or seminary in the state they are in at the time.]
While the popular Christian view is that Jesus is God and that he came to Earth and took on a human body, other Christians believe his divinity means that he embodied the spirit of God in his life and work, said Eugene Webb, professor emeritus of comparative religion at the University of Washington.
Webb says it’s possible to be both Muslim and Christian: “It’s a matter of interpretation. But a lot of people on both sides do not believe in interpretation. ”
[Another obvious non-Christian, like many who hold Jesus up as an ideal to be shaped and molded to fit whatever view they desire, rather than to be worshiped as the real, actual, one and only, living GOD.]
Ihsan Bagby, associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky, agrees with Webb, and adds that Islam tends to be a little more flexible. Muslims can have faith in Jesus, he said, as long as they believe in Mohammed’s message.
[And guess who is not himself an actual Allah/Mohammed believing/following Muslim?]
Other scholars are skeptical.
“The theological beliefs are irreconcilable,” said Mahmoud Ayoub, professor of Islamic studies and comparative religion at Temple University in Philadelphia. Islam holds that God is one, unique, indivisible. “For Muslims to say Jesus is God would be blasphemy.”
[Absolutely totally 100% true! And it holds true in the reverse for Christians.]
Frank Spina, an Episcopal priest and also a professor of Old Testament and biblical theology at Seattle Pacific University, puts it bluntly.
“I just do not think this sort of thing works,” he said. “I think you have to give up what is essential to Christianity to make the moves that she has done.
“The essence of Christianity was not that Jesus was a great rabbi or even a great prophet, but that he is the very incarnation of the God that created the world…. Christianity stands or falls on who Jesus is.”
[Yes yes YES! And note that the professor is also an Episcopal priest.]
Spina also says that as priests, he and Redding have taken vows of commitment to the doctrines of the church. “That means none of us get to work out what we think all by ourselves.”
[So he holds to what the Bible teaches about Christ, and he also holds to the denominational viewpoint, unlike her bishop, and the officials at the denominational headquarters who are all just so “excited by the possibilities”…]
Redding knows there are many Christians and Muslims who will not accept her as both.
[Right. Actual Christians, and actual Muslims.]
“I don’t care,” she says. “They can’t take away my baptism.”
[Since she is a member of one of those denominations that teaches people are saved by having water/oil drizzled over their infant noggins, that ex-communicate, that declare marriages non-existent years after they were entered into, and allow men to re-write God, as they see fit, that pronounce human men and women to be holy saints to be revered and prayed to, as well as assigning them seating in Heaven… she shouldn’t be too quick to claim that they couldn’t remove her baptism from her.]
And as she understands it, once she’s made her profession of faith to become a Muslim, no one can say she isn’t that, either.
While she doesn’t rule out that one day she may choose one or the other, it’s more likely “that I’m going to be 100 percent Christian and 100 percent Muslim when I die.”
[She’ll never be 200% anything, but we can hope (and we should pray) that she will not go to the grave 100% self-deluded – as she now shows herself to be. And yes, I am saying that she is purposefully choosing to walk in defiance of truth to suit her desires; no matter how we are tempted, no matter how we may be misled, the truth is always shown to us, and we always choose to follow it or reject it.]
These days, Redding usually carries a headscarf with her wherever she goes so she can pray five times a day.
On Fridays, she prays with about 20 others at the Al-Islam Center. On Sundays, she prays in church, usually at St. Clement’s of Rome in the Mount Baker neighborhood.
[Why I have to wonder, does she not go to St.Mark’s for her Sunday praying. Is she harboring hurt or ill feelings regarding her layoff? Or…]
One thing she prays for every day: “I pray not to cause scandal or bring shame upon either of my traditions.”
[Praying to try and alter something after the fact is a waste of time. Praying to not get the broken bone I suffered through in years past is as foolish as praying to try and get someone’s eternal destiny changed after they have died.]
Being Muslim has given her insights into Christianity, she said. For instance, because Islam regards Jesus as human, not divine, it reinforces for her that “we can be like Jesus. There are no excuses.”
[So if Jesus is not divine, and all of us are, why would we want to be like Him? Why would we choose to be so much less than perfect if we were able to? Her false and warped logic is riddled through with contradiction.]
Doug Thorpe, who served on St. Mark’s faith-formation committee with Redding, said he’s trying to understand all the dimensions of her faith choices. But he saw how it deepened her spirituality. And it spurred him to read the Quran and think more deeply about his own faith.
[The last thing the world needs is anyone trying to have a “deeper spirituality” rather than having an abiding trust, love, and servile attitude towards Jesus Christ. Millions of people with no knowledge of God, and often even outright rejection of there even being a God, lay claim to “being spiritual” – the term has been completely raped of it’s original depth in recent history.]
He believes Redding is being called. She is, “by her very presence, a bridge person,” Thorpe said. “And we desperately need those bridge persons.”
[Guess we need not ask how deep and real his commitment to Christ are do we? I also believe she has been called, and I believe that she continues to ignore His call and to chase after her own wicked desires. And at some point, God will cease entreating her to come to Him, and turn her loose to her own delusions.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do the things not right,
2Thessalonians 2:9-12 whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (10) and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved. (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, (12) so that all those who do not believe the truth, but delight in unrighteousness, might be condemned.
Titus 1:15-16 To the pure all things are pure. But to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure, but even their mind and conscience is defiled. (16) They profess that they know God, but in their works they deny Him, being abominable and disobedient and reprobate to every good work.
2Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers will go forward to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
Hebrews 12:25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape, those who refused him that spoke on earth, much more we shall not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from Heaven,]
In Redding’s car, she has hung up a cross she made of clear crystal beads. Next to it, she has dangled a heart-shaped leather object etched with the Arabic symbol for Allah.
“For me, that symbolizes who I am,” Redding said. “I look through Jesus and I see Allah.”
[She looks through Jesus to see Allah. That (sadly) says it all doesn’t it?]